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Hornet help
I have a massive ground hornets nest in my back yard. They took up residence in an old gofer hole (trail system) . I would not worry too much because it is in theback of the back yard but I have an ole crippled up dog that my wife loves way more than me, and I am affraid she will mess with the area and be attacked as fall comes and they get more aggressive. Since I have NOT had to cut the grass for over a month and a half (NO RAIN) until this week, I have not noticed this and they have had the opportunity to thrive WAY too long. I can count 10-15 entering in less than 25 seconds and many leaving during the same time. This went on for more than a half hour as I sat and watched the other day. Although it was almost 100 deg. that day and they may of been more active. The next day I still counted almost as many. I would think this could be a very very large nest. While it was pouring rain out 2 days agao, I went out and took a look. They STILL were flying in and out non stop even in the rain! I sprayed a whole can of wasp killer Ortho) the kind that foams, last night. Did next to nothing! Still in and out today. The hole is on the edge (to almost under) of a bush so lighting this bad boy on fire could be disaterous (BIG BUSH)!!! .
Any suggestions? My bride suggested a professional? My pride wont let me do this at this point yet! If my dog gets it tomaroo I will pay for a long time si I better atleast look like I am trying something?
Any suggestions?
help Mate's (and Sheila's)
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You guys are too funny! The gas idea was my first thought. X-NAYED it because we have hasd only 1-2 storms in over 45 days and they have been in this last week. So dry I think I would start the county on fire. Also the entrance is at the base of a (useless) shrub/bush. Its not worth anything but it would go up pretty high in flames and then there is the old huge Oak tree above that along with a 1/2 mile of brush and trees behind it. Although one more good rain and I will be considering it.
The house bomb idea is great except for the OTHER reason I forgot to mention. When I was 16 we were attacked pretty good by the same genious little buggers. A buddy was covering the hole with his foot (accidentally) for over a minuit!!! This was in Late Aug. and let me tell you I still remember the "cartoon like" cloud coming out from the hole! My bosses son got it 27 times that day anouther got it 16 stillanouther got it 9 times. I ran the OTHER way than those guys. Maybe I should of been with them because the screams to this day haunt me. Maybe I would not be so affraid of the hornets if I would of experianced it first hand. The stories they told me of how Glen was sweeping them off my bosses sons back as they were running. We were 1/4 mile back in the woods at the time! (PHEW) Ok thats the story and the reasons I fear them so much. Nothing I can do about it, my blood runs cold and my body just reacts with out me able to controll it. Sad but true! Whne I am on my tractor I need to pick the times I uses it and when and where and what I do with it in the fields. I will get ran over by the thing if I have a nest break open under neath me and they attack, because I WILL jump and run with out thinking about it I am sure!!!!
I called ORKIN! $150. You have got to be kidding so I hung up. For $139 I can buy a bee suit! What do you think of that? Anyone ever use one? Would it protect me from an attack? Was thinking maybe it may be the way to go since then atleast I would have the thing for future use (Like plowing in the middle of August! That would be a funny sight! "Hey dad, whats that guy on a tractor out in his field doing with a bee suit on?" "Oh, son, he must be a BEE farmer" EH? Right!!! Thats me a chicken in a mans suit.
Seroiusly though, what do you think about a bee suit? Then I may have the cahoonies to walk up to it at night and do all sorts of mean things to the hornets in the hole?
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I would be willing to bet there are 500 to over a 1000 down there. On the hot day last week I watched every few seconds 2-3 flying in at a time for many seconds in a row.
I have my plan!
As soon as it rains again (maybe in Sept. at the rate its going down here) I will go out there at night with 2 10' pieces of 1" pvc connected with a connector. I will then shine a light accrossed the edge of where I think the exact opening is. I will push the end of this tube to the opening and pour about a gallon and a half of gass thru it dragging it thru the grass towards me when finished. (hopefully it will leave a trail of fuel all the way to where I stand. Light that babby up after about 10-20 seconds and grab the garden hose I will have waiting by my side. This may be risky especially if I do NOT hit the hole. I figure I should be able to get within 2-3" at the most away from the hole if I dont get it exactly so hopefully enough will get down there to make a heck of a concusion thru the hole.
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All great advice. I see where Dennis is going, the gas idea (that I am still pondering with) is never a real good ecological idea. Although I really dont care about a one time shot of gas into the ground I still am a bit concerned obout my habitat we all just use for a little while.
Dennis, will sevin kill hornets? I have never looked at the container. Heck if it does I may just go buy a small truck load and dump it on the opening!
All I can say is that this is anouther good case for why I should buy a fully enclosed cab LS 185B. It would be fun digging them little turds up and watching them break their sorry stingers on my window!
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Thanks alot Dennis for all that info and to ALL others that have helped this "chicken little" out. Right now I have a hose running at full force at what I hope is their entrance. I took my 12 foot painters extension, duct taped the hose to it and walked out there and layed her where I belive the entrance is. It has been running for an hour now and soon I will be turning it off. If I am lucky I will have a good flood down there. I figure I will turn her on every night for an hour or two till the little buggers either vacate or drown. Atleast the new borns that are down there should drown. Tomarrow I will check her out in the daylight and see for sure how close the hose is to the opening. I have more guts during the day than at night and I know that should be reversed but the thought of blindly being slapped by them is worse than knowing it is coming.
I think I need to see a shrink, maybe hypnosis could help me over come this fear.
On a side note though, this weekend I had one of my buddies to my farm/hunting land () He was one that was behind me when I tilled up a ground hornets nest when I was in the enclosed cab. He is NOT affraid of anything that flies. I told him we should till up that half acre that I have been spraying with round up to prepaire it for next year. , He told me there is NO way this late in the year he will run my tractor doing that! (that makes me feel better) He said if he could see the ground he would do it but since there is still standing dead vegitation and can not tell if any activity is around this field, there is no way he is going to be seat belted to the slow form of a electric chair. I agreed and decided to wait till after the first few frosts this fall.
185B with an enclosed cab is looking better and better! Now I just need to hit the lottery
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I have done the fire drill a few times myself, .
The mixing of chemicals is a good idea, just how do I get it in the hole from , oh.. say 20 feet? The hose trick is still at there entrance, maybe I can pour one into one section of hose and the other into anouther section of this hose. connect the two sections and turn on the water at the third sectoin. This mill force it all into the hole from a safe distance, although it will be diluted a bit it will still be nasty?
Here is the update. Last night I ran a water hose in the nest hole for about an hour. Today when I got home from work I walked out there and saw next to no activity for well over 3 minuits. I decided to flood em again and low and behold, I walk back out there and I see many hornets flying around very angrily! (many meaning about 6 or 7 not a few hundred)_. Was wondering if I am really knocking them down a bit with the combo of sprays and water? I had decided to just flood em every day for a week. I figure sooner or later they are either going to drown,leave for dryer ground or sit in the weeds for the rat that turns on the water every day!
We will see tomaroo, if I see activity then I will try mixing the chemicals. This is more fun than spending $150 and getting it done right away!
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Son and I mixed up some bleach and amonia. Half went in one hose half in the other. Ran it just long enough to get it all out and in. Update will come tomarroo.
Thanks all!!!!!
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Your NOT going to believe this! I got stung in the back! Just a grazing warning sting (I think) (like I said you wont believe this) NOT from the nest in the back of the back yard! My bride TOLD me to cut the patches of grass that are where the hose's meet (a slight leek from when I water the garden makes for the only green in the neighborhood) I have not cut the lawn since the first week in JUNE! No need NO rain. I was using a push mower around the old fence line that I removed this spring and relocated. It had "T" posts as fence posts for the welded wire fencing. You guessed it! Anouther ground hornet nest. I mowed over the same spot three times consecutively and on the third time I moved the mower back I saw them coming. Leaving the mower in place and running was a good thing as they all consumed the mower except for the one with the right eye that looks left and had a bent wing. For what ever reason he decided to push me a bit faster away and nailed me in the back. YES, I had NO shirt on since it was 87 degree's.
Do you think I got a thank you for cutting these patches of grass? This nest will be no problem. It looks small and I know it only goes down about 10 inches. Besides that I saw only about 25 hornets around the mower. I can handle this one!
Update on the large nest? I see absolutely NO activity around it and plan to investigate this more in the coming days. Makes me wonder if the queen from the other nest decided to relocate after being flooded out twice? More than likely just anouther nest!
I have never had a nest in my yard in 8 years and this year I have 2? I bet you can guess what I will be doing this fall and spring? Filling every hole around with sand and dirt and killing EVERY one of those rotten ass gopher's that I used to get along with!
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Sorry to hear that pete. I am sitting at my computer and watching the ground hornets come in and out of the NEW nest. It is about 15 feet from my window and with binoculars I can see every one come and leave. Unless the hot weather toady has something to do about it, I under estimated the amount of hornets in the nest! They come to the nest like planes dropping on an aircraft carrier after a mission and all low on fuel. They are coming and leaving at a rate of 1 every 2-3 seconds!!!! I better hit this nest tonight right away!!!!! Maybe the multiplier is working over time this week.
I am so frusterated with this summer I can not explane! I feel like a prisoner in my own house because of the hornets out back! Anyone know a good shrink? My fenced portion of yard is 100'x220'. In this area I have a large paper hornets nest in the middle top of one of my tree's. That does not bother me, they are cool! Up and out of the way and they seem to never mess with us so I have no problem with them. I also have the hinged yellow and blck wasp under my deck. This is a first (also) I have been nailing them one at a time as they emerge or enter thru the deck boards. Dont know how big that nest is but I have killed about 15 in 4 days now. Anouther hornets nest (same kind) under my kids (old) wood play centre out back. I hit it with spray last week but apparently not good enough so I need to redo it. The ground hornets nest out back seems to be dead (or did they relocate????) Now I have this ground hornets nest right by my house. I did not mention the 2 sheds I have, heavy activity on the one out back by wasp and I have no clue as to where inside that nest is. Bottom line is that I will NOT be going into that shed till the 3rd hard freeze! .
Paranoid? I think so, but at the same time I have never had this many wasp (no where near this many) at any one time so I may be justified to be a bit cautious.
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Well they lived thru the foam spray that made it look like a shaving creme mess on top of the ground on top of thier hole. I gave them one more good shot tonight of the remaining cans. If they live thru this I will pour a gallon of diesel down the hole! I am done messing around!
Thanks alot guys for all the great ideas!
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Thanks, read about that method too.
SEE THE BACK YARD THIS FALL. Thats about the next time I am going out to that place! TALK ABOUT UNREAL!!!! Your not going to believe me AGAIN! I wear glasses and can barely see thru these scratched up things right? Wrong! From 50 yards away, looking at the filtered light coming thru tree's(the sun that is low in the sky right now 6.30 pm I am looking at a shed I have way outback. I see little darts flying towards the door and disapearing. Of course the first thing I think of is hornets! I walk back there and count 10 flying in and 7 OUT in 15 seconds. I will bet you that I do not open that door till about November!!! How much you all want to bet? I should really go get a better look at em though. On friday my new neighbor was starting his garage and a swarm of (the good guys) honey bee's took up resisdence in a tree right where he was staring his building. He told me that he hoped they moved on by Sat. morn. (Which they did) I actually like the honey bee's. I wont kill oe of their nests since they seem to be on the decline around here and pollination of many apple tree's depends so much on thos critters. Like I said, I should go get a better look at what is going in and out of that shed. Wonder if that swarm found a new place to start a hive? Here is a fact. Just to prove that I am not crapping you all. Come Nov. first (remember this guys) I will go out open that shed up and take a picture of the nest in there. If it is he hornets, I would bet you it is going to be an impressive paper nest!
YUK!!!! I hate hornets so darn much its frightening! Never never have I ever had a year like this one! Look back at last years posts (of mine) You never heard me fear them like you here me this year. WHY? because this is the year from hell for me with flying stinging little crappers!.
OOPS Looks like this should of gone in hostile and useless? Sorry,
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